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Headphone transformer from multi-voltage power supply
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journeyman



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Headphone transformer from multi-voltage power supply Reply with quote

Just to show you my latest project, partly inspired (or rather accelerated) by Dave's latest trafo project.
In a second hand shop I bought a large 230V to 3-12V switchable power supply for about 1 buck. Tore out the rectifiers, and put in a 1/4" headphone switch, a 250K potmeter+0.1uF cap, on both sides some speaker connectors from an older radio set, and voilá, a nice looking switchable headphone transformer. The 3-12V switch now functions as 25K to 350K ohm input switch for serial connected 2x32ohm headphones.
Some images:

I'll have to open it up once more, and set up the polarity switch as a 'serial/parallel' switch to allow for 64/16 ohm switching for phones to have even more leeway in impedance matching.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:04 am    Post subject: Headphone Transformer Reply with quote

journeyman, what a clever idea. I am always amazed at the ingenuity of you folks across the pond. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is excellent! I like that.

Some of the surplus parts sellers do offer wall wart transformers with a
220 volt primary. I think that would be much better than the 110 volt
that we have.

This can be very beneficial for those that have a budget to adhere to.

Dave
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you have a polarity inverter for the audiophiles!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: xfmr Reply with quote

Good Work.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very clever idea!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great idea. I don't believe we have any walwarts with 220 volts in the states. Any one seen any?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find them occasionally at HSC Electronics. Very cheap... only a dollar or two. Sometimes under 50 cents. Not too useful as USA power supplies so they sell cheap.

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Georg



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW,
why and when did "someone" in USA decide to
stay with 110/120 Volt?
Has there been a serious dicussion about that?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Journeyman,

Good idea and it looks great.

When I started with crystal sets I've tried several 230V wall-wart transformers, not as nice looking as yours, but with limited success. All wall-wart transformers I tried worked but they had relatively low primary inductance, only a few Henry's which resulted in attenuation of low frequencies, and significant losses.

Corné
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked i cant resist trying that myself its the best idea for a boa-gen i ever seen, i got access to one of those. i am gonna try that today Razz my x-tal set just so happens not to have a out put x former


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why and when did "someone" in USA decide to
stay with 110/120 Volt?


110/120 has been the standard here for over 100 years. It was a compromise between insulation requirements and wire diameter. Also, early distribution in the USA was DC and it was low voltage. Japan uses 100 V AC.

Why did Europe select 50 Hz. instead of 60 Hz.? Your transformers have a little extra iron compared to ours.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

corne wrote:
Journeyman,

Good idea and it looks great.

When I started with crystal sets I've tried several 230V wall-wart transformers, not as nice looking as yours, but with limited success. All wall-wart transformers I tried worked but they had relatively low primary inductance, only a few Henry's which resulted in attenuation of low frequencies, and significant losses.

Corné


Yes, I found that too, but for my local 'Lelystad' blasters the wall warts work fine - not for extreme DXíng though but I use an excellent sound-powered TMC set for that. I have, however, already found that ferrite toroid transformers work a lot better than the usual wall warts - very low losses. A 220-12V/2A toroid I use gives a lot more volume to my massive horn speaker compared to a standard transformer, regardless of impedance matching.. Rolling Eyes
Anyway, I expressly chose a rather large (e.g. heavy) transformer for this project (lots of iron). It has a decent primary inductance, and hence lower loss that way.
My choices were (in that order) budget, inventory, looks, ease of use. Or, "what have I laying around to make a nice 'cheap phone' adapter".

Michel
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

journeyman,

I tried troid transformers as well. They generally have more inductance than the wall-wart transformers and less losses and work quite well. I didn't stop there and searched for even better transformers.
Current I'm using microphone transformers that where used in tube amplifiers to match the low microphone impedance (600ohm) to the high tube impedance (100kohm). These are ideal to match low impedance DLR5 headphones, which are about 200ohm with two elements in parallel, to the high impedance detector. Often the primary inductance of these transformers is higher than 100H. As with other types of transformers the losses vary from manufacture to manufacture. Some microphone transformers are tiny and still work quit well. Here's a picture of my mini crystal set using one of the tiny microphone transformers, look for the gray round thing to the right of the tuning capacitor.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corne'

Is that gray object an "in-line" microphone transformer?

I have been using the Bogen T-725, as learned from Dave Schmarder.

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