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jima



Joined: 10 Dec 2006
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Location: Lakewood, Washington

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Cigar box radio Reply with quote

I recently finished my latest radio. It's a one-tube regenerative using an 1t4. I built it into a cigar box I picked up on Ebay. This is the first time I've put pics and words together on the board, so I hope everything works out ok.


Here is the box I used. I picked it for its dimensions: Not too big, not too small. Also, it looks cool as heck.


The picture inside the lid was a selling point. I've seen a couple of other radios built into this box.


A closer look at the radio. The only thing left to do is put some labels on. I can't rely on my memory to not mix up the battery connections. The panel is plywood I got from Michael's. I had trouble with it splintering, but in the end it gave an antique look. I stained the panel with stain from Lowe's, and coated it with polyurethane. I haven't decided if the knobs are too modern looking for the set.


This shows how I connected the vernier dial to the tuning capacitor and how I suspended the tube and socket below the panel. It also shows more exposed magnet wire than I'm comfortable with. I worry about chafing and short circuits. If I don't take it out of the box too often I should be okay.


I got the plans from a Modern Radio Labs book. There was no coil data given, so I had to guess on the tickler and antenna coil size. Also, the values for the resistors and capacitors didn't match anything I had on hand, so I got as close as I could with what I had. I misread one of the capacitor values in the book and ended up doubling the value. It didn't seem to make any difference.

The radio is a very good performer. It's never too loud on the locals and it doesn't have any hand-capacitance induce howl when I'm on the edge of oscillation. It is VERY sensitive. I live in Tacoma and I can reliably pick up two stations in Los Angeles, about 950 miles away. Last night I nailed KFMB in San Diego. At 1,028 miles that's my first station over 1,000 miles on a radio I made myself, except for one that uses a MK484 IC chip. I'm going to be using this radio in the contest this month.

Jim
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golfguru



Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Jim. Looks realy great. Glad it performs they way you want it to.
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KR1S



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Location: South Florida

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a beauty! Radio Shack may still sell spaghetti insulation (more properly called thin macaroni!). You could use it to protect the exposed lengths of magnet wire.

73,
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Curt Reed



Joined: 03 Jul 2007
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Location: Sandpoint, Idaho USA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I had a picture of my first cigar box radio that I built back in 1959. It had a prould type 26 globe tube standing on the top of the Roi Tan box. Yes, it worked like a charm, until my #6 dry cell went dead from running that 1.05 amp filament!

I went thru way more #6 dry cells than I should have been allowed to. At least it helped to maintain a fresh stock of them on the hardware store shelves!

I look back on it as a learning experience that never left me. and I shudder when I realize that it was just exactly half a century ago, in mid July that I built that set. I guess that sorts of dates me as an old timer at building tube type sets now! Laughing
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Dan McGillis



Joined: 29 Nov 2006
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Location: Allentown,PA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice set Jim - and nice photography.

What kind of antenna did you use?

73, Dan
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exray



Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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Location: Vieques, PR

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's mine.





I went with two 1T4s and there's space in the bottom for batteries. 4x9volt and a C-cell.
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XtalHWJ



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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Location: Sonoma County, CA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim

Rather than labels on your beautiful creation... could you figure out some way to burn the markings into the wood?

Rich
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UKBB



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is impressive jima.

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I got the plans from a Modern Radio Labs book.


Can you tell us which one?
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Rob Lenski



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jima,

I'd be very proud of having built a set that nice. Great job!

"Rob"
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jima



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Location: Lakewood, Washington

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words. Makes my day!

The idea of burning in the labeling is a good idea. I think it would look nice, but I don't have any neat way of doing that. I have an old wood burning set like we all had as kids (remember the blisters?), but if I tried to letter with it I'm sure I would do a crappy job.

I thought about the spaghetti wrapping after I had soldered everything so It was too late by then. Also, the wire is #30 guage so I don't know how easy it is to push it through the tubing. I've never used the stuff before, but I like the professional look it gives to other radios I've seen. I'm going to get some and give it a try.

Exray, it was your 2-tube that inspired me to build mine. I'm impressed that you fit two tubes in the box. Putting the tuning cap inside the coil frees up valuable real estate. Still, that's a lot of wiring you managed to get into a small space and you even found room for a transformer!

My antenna is a 1960's style TV antenna. I keep saying I have no possible way to put up a long wire at my house, but I keep standing out on the porch looking at the trees and telephone poles and wondering what if......

The book i got the plans from was MRL Data Print File #1. It has a page with fifteen 1-tube plans.

Jim
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foolsgolden



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Location: new jersey

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both cigar boxes are lovely Very Happy
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exray



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jima wrote:
Thanks for the kind words. Makes my day!

Exray, it was your 2-tube that inspired me to build mine. I'm impressed that you fit two tubes in the box. Putting the tuning cap inside the coil frees up valuable real estate. Still, that's a lot of wiring you managed to get into a small space and you even found room for a transformer!


Hi Jim,
The cap inside the coil made for a somewhat unpredictable set of numbers for tuning range and regeneration but it worked at the end of the day after tweaking. MY inspiration was a photo posted by George in Belgium (IIRC) of a smallish vintage set configured that way. I still fancy a shortwave version of the same but I would probably 'cheat' and use a toroid and small tuning cap.

For me the 'real estate' challenge was the batteries in the bottom of the box. It HAD to work at 36 volts since thats all the space that was available.
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Austin Hellier



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys,
if my first valve radio looks and sounds and works as well as some of these, I'll be a happy little Vegemite. Golfguru is sending me a 1T4 in the mail and I'm busy sorting through my junk boxes for bits and pieces - win or loose, I promise you a couple of pics of the finished product over the next week or two.

Austin Hellier
'warming up'
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foolsgolden



Joined: 17 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guys,
if my first valve radio looks and sounds and works as well as some of these, I'll be a happy little Vegemite. Golfguru is sending me a 1T4 in the mail and I'm busy sorting through my junk boxes for bits and pieces - win or loose, I promise you a couple of pics of the finished product over the next week or two.
just for kicks join the home brew contest Very Happy i got 4 ideas in the mix i 2 being which ever is the best xtal and 2 being the best working tube 1 being a mini tribute to the A K bread board battery radio with 3 tube island the A K is a new born idea that just occurred last nite not rock solid for the contest tho{ time wise }
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3 tube island

That will look cool if you can pull it off, FG.
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